The cast of ‘Spotlight’ (Photo Courtesy of Open Road Films)
The Alliance of Women Film Journalists* shined the spotlight on Spotlight with its 2015 EDA Awards, giving the film based on the true story of the investigation by Boston Globe reporters into sexual abuse in the Catholic Church four awards including Best Film and Best Director. Other multiple award winners included Carol, starring Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara, and Mad Max: Fury Road.
Alliance of Women Film Journalists’ EDA Award Winners:
Best Film
SPOTLIGHT
Best Director (Female or Male)
Tom McCarthy for SPOTLIGHT
Best Screenplay, Original
SPOTLIGHT – Josh Singer, Tom McCarthy
Best Screenplay, Adapted
CAROL – Phyllis Nagy
Best Documentary
AMY – Asif Kapadia
Best Animated Film
INSIDE OUT – Pete Docter, Ronnie Del Carmen
Best Actress
Charlotte Rampling in 45 YEARS
Best Actress in a Supporting Role
Kristen Stewart in CLOUDS OF SILS MARIA
Best Actor
Leonardo DiCaprio in THE REVENANT
Best Actor in a Supporting Role
Paul Dano in LOVE & MERCY
Best Ensemble Cast
SPOTLIGHT
Best Editing
MAD MAX: FURY ROAD – Margaret Sixel
Best Cinematography
CAROL – Edward Lachman
Best Film Music Or Score
THE HATEFUL EIGHT – Ennio Morricone
Best Non-English-Language Film
Son of Saul – Laszlo Nemes (Hungary)
EDA FEMALE FOCUS AWARDS
These awards honor WOMEN only.
Best Woman Director
Marielle Heller for DIARY OF A TEENAGE GIRL
Best Woman Screenwriter
Emma Donoghue for ROOM
Best Female Action Star
Charlize Theron for MAD MAX: FURY ROAD
Best Breakthrough Performance
Alicia Vikander for EX MACHINA, TESTAMENT OF YOUTH and THE DANISH GIRL
Female Icon of the Year (presented to a woman whose work in film and/or in life made a difference)
Chantal Ackerman – In Memoriam, for being a great filmmaker and an inspiration.
EDA SPECIAL MENTION AWARDS
Best Depiction Of Nudity, Sexuality, or Seduction (Tie)
ANOMALISA
CAROL
Actress Defying Age and Ageism (Tie)
Charlotte Rampling
Lily Tomlin
Most Egregious Age Difference Between The Lead Character and The Love Interest
DANNY COLLINS – Al Pacino (born 1940) and Katarina Cas (born 1976)
Actress Most in Need Of A New Agent
Emma Stone for ALOHA
Movie You Wanted To Love, But Just Couldn’t
THE DANISH GIRL
* – I am a member of the Alliance of Women Film Journalists
Ariana Grande, Emma Roberts, Abigail Breslin and Billie Lourd in ‘Scream Queens’ (Photo by Steve Dietl / FOX)
The 2016 PaleyFest LA just announced the first TV shows that will included in their lineup. Fox’s Scream Queens and Empire, FX’s American Horror Story: Hotel, ABC’s black-ish, and Starz’s Power will have panels at the 33rd annual PaleyFest Los Angeles which runs from March 11-20, 2016. Additional shows will be announced next week.
“The Paley Center could not be more thrilled for the 33rd annual PaleyFest LA, continuing our mission to bring fans together with the biggest stars and creative forces behind our most beloved television programs,” stated Maureen J. Reidy, President and CEO of The Paley Center for Media.
For details on tickets to this year’s PaleyFest, visit paleyfest.org.
ThePaleyFest LA2016 initial panelist lineup:
Friday, March 11: Opening Night Presentation: Empire (7:30pm)
Details on The Paley Center for Media’s PaleyFest: “The Festival benefits the Paley Center’s preservation and archival digitization efforts, and its ongoing mission to explore the significant impact of media on our culture and society. The Paley Center is home to one of the nation’s foremost publically accessible archives of television, radio, and new media content, over 160,000 programs spanning the history of media.”
Hugh Dancy stars in ‘The Path’ (Photo by Greg Lewis / HULU)
Hugh Dancy didn’t think he’d return to series TV so quickly after the cancellation of Hannibal, but he found he just couldn’t say no to HULU’s The Path. The new drama was created by Jessica Goldberg and Jason Katims and is set to premiere on March 30, 2015 with Dancy, Breaking Bad‘s Aaron Paul, Michelle Monaghan, and Rockmond Dunbar in starring roles. The story follows a “family at the center of a controversial cult as they struggle with relationships, faith and power. Each episode takes an in-depth look at the gravitational pull of belief and what it means to choose between the life we live and the life we want.”
Following HULU’s presentation at the Television Critics Association’s 2016 winter press event, I sat down with a few other journalists to speak with Hugh Dancy about his role in The Path, the research process, music, and why he was so attracted to this project.
Hugh Dancy Interview:
Were you ready to jump right into a new series?
Hugh Dancy: “I didn’t expect to. I literally had just found out that Hannibal wasn’t coming back so, no, I wasn’t looking for it at all. But sometimes events just conspire to be undeniable. I read it; I almost tried to find reasons why it didn’t make sense. I couldn’t think of a single reason. And then I spoke to Jason [Katims] and Jessica [Goldberg]. I had some questions about the script. They preempted all of my questions. They said, ‘We’ve already rewritten all of that stuff.’ They described what they wanted to do with the show and I said, ‘Okay, I’m in.’”
What in particular did you have questions about?
Hugh Dancy: “It’s hard to say specifically and nothing that you would recognize from the show. It was more like character stuff so I had questions which I now recognize as being quite superficial questions. Their responses were so much richer and considered, I thought, ‘Okay, these guys are trying to make the very best version of the show that they can make,’ and I just wanted to be a part of it.”
Where are you filming the series?
Hugh Dancy: “We’re still shooting the show and it’s in New York, mostly around Nyack in Upstate New York and Mount Vernon.”
Has religious music been informative to you?
Hugh Dancy: “I wouldn’t say for me music from other religions or pre-existing religious music has been. I grew up singing in church and so on, but specifically to this role, no. But, there is a fair amount of music in the show and songs that were written for the show. We imagined…I should say Jessica and Jason imagined that they would have their own culture in that respect and that comes into play.”
Are you singing in the series?
Hugh Dancy: “In the background. [Laughing] Deep background.”
Can you talk about the research that you did for the role? Were there preaching styles that you looked at?
Hugh Dancy: “No. Actually, for the preaching, not so much. I tried to think about what it would be, what qualities someone in that leadership position would have to have, and I considered one of them to be humor. I don’t think you follow anybody who isn’t fun and a little unpredictable, dangerous in that respect.
I read about various movements, religions, whatever you want to call them that have undergone that moment when they have to transition from the beginnings into a second generation. That’s basically when most such movements vanish is they don’t survive it, when they lose their leader or whatever it is. And every so often circumstances conspire for the right person to be there at the right time and somebody kind of pragmatic, etc. etc. So I read about various versions of that.”
Is preaching like acting? It’s kind of a performance.
Hugh Dancy: “For sure. I think teaching is acting and preaching is a kind of teaching. I mean, it’s an interesting kind of acting because there’s a fair amount in this show that I learn. I mean, there was talk about me not having my sides but that’s because a lot of this stuff is not dialogue. I’m just speaking to crowds or addressing people, and that stuff you have to have really down properly because you can’t kind of bumble your way through it. So, yeah, it’s considered it’s performative.”
Your roles have gotten more complex over the years. Is that a pushback for your earlier career that had less complicated characters?
Hugh Dancy: “I think that you work with whatever opportunities you have, right, in the hope that you’re going to get to keep working and that eventually your interests will kind of come to the fore. I never felt any burning need to prove myself. I think that the things that I found interesting, slowly, the more I worked and was lucky enough to still be around, the more I got the opportunity to actually do the things that came my way. Not big things, like small movies but if they go well, then somebody else sees that and so on. I think that’s probably a pretty normal trajectory.”
Michael Shannon stars as Elvis Presley and Kevin Spacey stars as President Richard Nixon in ‘Elvis & Nixon’ (Photo by Steve Dietl / Bleecker Street)Elvis is in the building… The first official trailer for Bleecker Street and Amazon Studios’ Elvis & Nixon finds Michael Shannon as Elvis Presley checking his guns at the White House door and visiting President Richard Nixon (Kevin Spacey) in the Oval Office to offer his help in exchange for a badge from the Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs.
Directed by Liza Johnson, the cast also includes Alex Pettyfer, Johnny Knoxville, Colin Hanks, Evan Peters, Sky Ferreira, Tracy Letts, Tate Donovan, and Ashley Benson.
The Plot:
On a December morning in 1970, the King of Rock ’n Roll showed up on the lawn of the White House to request a meeting with the most powerful man in the world, President Nixon. Starring Academy Award® nominee Michael Shannon as Elvis Presley and two-time Academy Award® winner Kevin Spacey as Richard Nixon, comes the untold true story behind this revealing, yet humorous moment in the Oval Office forever immortalized in the most requested photograph in the National Archives.
Princess Leia in ‘Star Wars Rebels’Princess Leia will make her Star Wars Rebels debut on the January 20, 2016 episode airing on Disney XD. Leia, who will only appear in one episode this season, will be voiced by Julie Dolan, the voice of the Rebel leader in Disney’s Star Tours attraction. The episode is set three years before A New Hope and introduces Leia as “a young leader on her way to becoming the strong, more resolute character portrayed in the original trilogy.”
“One of the complex challenges of depicting Leia in Star Wars Rebels is that we have to remind the audience that she is part of the Empire at this point,” said executive producer/supervising director Dave Filoni. “She doesn’t believe in the Empire, but she is acting the part, almost as a double agent. The Empire sees her as a privileged princess who runs mercy missions to wayward worlds, but in truth she is much stronger and more dangerous than they imagine.”
Added Filoni, “There really is no other character quite like her. And to quote The Force Awakens’ Lor San Tekka, ‘She’ll always be royalty to me.'”
The January 20th episode plot: An aide to Bail Organa (Princess Leia Organa) is sent to Lothal with ships for the rebel fleet, but an Imperial lockdown forces the rebels to create a new plan to steal the vehicles.
Chadwick Boseman in Marvel Studios’ ‘Black Panther.’ (Photo: Marvel)
Marvel’s finally confirmed a director for Black Panther, setting Ryan Coogler to take the helm of the comic book-inspired film starring Chadwick Boseman. Coogler earned critical acclaim with his 2013 breakthrough film Fruitvale Station starring Michael B. Jordan and followed that up with Creed, again starring Jordan alongside Sylvester Stallone as Rocky Balboa. And while Stallone forgot to thank his director on his first trip to the stage to accept the Best Supporting Actor award at the Golden Globes (he went back up during the commercial break and corrected that error), Marvel’s acknowledging Coogler’s talent by adding him to the roster of filmmakers who’ve overseen movies based on their material.
Boseman will first appear as Black Panther in Captain America: Civil War opening on May 6. The stand-alone Black Panther film is scheduled to hit theaters on February 16, 2018.
“We are fortunate to have such an esteemed filmmaker join the Marvel family,” stated producer Kevin Feige. “The talents Ryan showcased in his first two films easily made him our top choice to direct Black Panther. Many fans have waited a long time to see Black Panther in his own film, and with Ryan we know we’ve found the perfect director to bring T’Challa’s story to life.”
Marvel’s description of Black Panther: “Black Panther has been an important character in the Marvel universe for 50 years. He is the king of the technologically-advanced nation of Wakanda, and Panther has served as a member of the Avengers in addition to his many solo adventures.”
Bryan Cranston stars in ‘All the Way’ (Photo: Hilary Bronwyn Gayle / HBO)
Bryan Cranston reprises his Tony Award-winning role as President Lyndon B. Johnson in HBO Films’ All the Way premiering this May. Cranston, who also won Drama Desk, Outer Critics Circle, and Theater World Awards for his portrayal of LBJ on stage, is joined in the dramatic film directed by Jay Roach (Game Change, Recount) by Anthony Mackie as Martin Luther King, Melissa Leo as Lady Bird Johnson, Bradley Whitford as Hubert Humphrey, and Stephen Root as J. Edgar Hoover.
The All the Way Plot: “All the Way is a riveting behind-the-scenes look at President Lyndon B. Johnson’s tumultuous first year in office as he takes the oath in the wake of President Kennedy’s assassination, navigates the escalation of the Vietnam War and balances opposing interests to launch his landmark civil rights bill and win election to his first full presidential term.”
During the Television Critics Association’s 2016 winter press event, Cranston chatted with a small group of reporters about reprising the role of LBJ in All the Way and whether he’ll ever be ready to return to a regular role on a TV series after Breaking Bad.
Bryan Cranston Interview:
Did you visit Lyndon’s old Texas stomping grounds before you did this character? Where did you go?
Bryan Cranston: “Yes. We went to the ranch, got a full backstage tour of the ranch. Saw his home quarters and his bedrooms and things, and the place where he passed away, where he was frightfully afraid he was going to die of a heart attack and sure enough he did.”
Is it easier to play a leader than somebody who is kind of reticent?
Bryan Cranston: “No, because we’ve certainly been around people who are more reserved and passive and so that’s actually quite a big challenge to be able to say, ‘Okay, you have a certain ambition or desire or secret and now sit on it and let it just settle down. And other characters are going to be the more visible or bigger characters.’ Everything is a challenge. Every time you find something new it’s a challenge.”
Is it pushing it to say there’s a parallel between Walter White and LBJ? LBJ was a bully but he was also sweet and caring.
Bryan Cranston: “I suppose you can find similar qualities with any two people, right? You can say, ‘Well, male, about the same age…,’ but yeah I think ambition is certainly one. In Walter White it was more blind ambition. He didn’t know where he was going. All he knew was where he was running away from. LBJ was a machine. He only wanted politics. He only thought about politics. He only read books on politics. He didn’t care about sports, theatre, music. He didn’t know about anything, only politics, and he knew it really well. He knew it backwards and forwards. He studied spouse names and children’s names so if you came into his office and he wanted something from you, ‘My god, how’s Margery doing? I know she had a little bit of a problem the other day. She alright?’ And all of a sudden you’re back on your heels. You’re like, ‘Oh my god, he knows my wife’s name!’ ‘She’s much better.’ ‘And the two little ones, the twins you have? Are they still playing ball?’ It’s like, ‘Oh my god, he listened! He knew!’ Now he’d go, ‘Well, I’ll tell you what I want to talk to you about,’ and he’d move in on you. All of a sudden you’re in his back pocket and you’re going to do what he wants because he’s putting the Johnson treatment to you.”
Can you talk about working with Melissa Leo?
Bryan Cranston: “She’s a remarkable actor, #1, and comes about it in a very kind of shy way, saying, ‘I’m not very political and I don’t know. I’ll have to just kind of softly kind of give…’ Every actor approaches a character differently and we just hit it off immediately and embraced the differences of how we approached characters and that sort of thing, much like you would in a marriage. ‘Oh, she does this and I do that,’ thing. You get to know each other. She was wonderful.”
So much wonderful talent came out of daytime television decades ago including you, Melissa Leo, and Julianne Moore. How sad is it that those shows aren’t around anymore?
Bryan Cranston: “Daytime? It was an incredibly learning experience for all of us. Technology killed daytime television. The problem with daytime television wasn’t the talent level, the problem was the quantity, the demand for every single day coming up with a 40-page, 50-page script. You can’t keep quality up doing that, as you know. ‘You have another one tomorrow, and another one, and another one,’ you’d go dry. That’s just human.”
Did Breaking Bad raise the bar so high that you’d never do a series again?
Bryan Cranston: “I love story so if story was on television then I would definitely consider it. I gave myself, and I don’t even know because it’s kind of arbitrary, but I gave myself a three-year moratorium for doing a series regular kind of thing and another show like that because what happened with Breaking Bad and Walter White it was like a snowball effect that became an avalanche. I just sort of realized I had to step away from it and get out of its way as opposed to trying to dismantle it or harness it or something.”
Laura Vandervoort joins the cast of ‘Supergirl’ (Photo Courtesy of Warner Bros Television)
CBS’ popular new superhero series, Supergirl, has added Laura Vandervoort and Jeff Branson to the cast. According to the official announcement, Vandervoort will be joining Supergirl as DC Comics’ character Indigo and Branson has been signed up to recur as Master Jailer. The casting announcement came during the Warner Bros. Television presentation at the Television Critics Association’s winter press event today.
Vandervoort’s no stranger to the world of costumed superheroes, having played Kara/Supergirl on the fan-favorite series Smallville. Indigo is described as “a living, strong-willed supercomputer that was sentenced to Fort Rozz after turning against the people of Krypton. Now on Earth, Indigo will let nothing stand in her way.”
Branson’s credits include The Young and the Restless and guest starring roles in Supernatural, The Mentalist, and NCIS. WBTV offers up this description of Branson’s character Master Jailer: “As the forceful and unrelenting jail guard on Fort Rozz, Master Jailer showed no mercy. Now on Earth, he is hellbent on catching all of the Fort Rozz escapees and brutally bringing them to justice.”
Supergirl airs on Mondays at 8pm ET/PT and stars Melissa Benoist as Kara Danvers/Kara Zor-El/Supergirl, Mehcad Brooks as James Olsen, Chyler Leigh as Alexandra “Alex” Danvers, Jeremy Jordan as Winslow “Winn” Schott, David Harewood as Hank Henshaw/J’onn J’onzz, and Calista Flockhart as Cat Grant. The series is executive produced by Greg Berlanti, Ali Adler, Andrew Kreisberg and Sarah Schechter.
Jeff Branson cast as Master Jailer in ‘Supergirl’ (Photo Courtesy of Warner Bros. Television)
HBO’s Vinyl premieres on Sunday, February 14, 2016 with a pilot episode directed by Oscar-winner Martin Scorsese and starring Bobby Cannavale, Olivia Wilde, and Ray Romano. Scorsese’s latest collaboration with HBO following Boardwalk Empire is set in the 1970s music industry, with Cannavale playing the founder and president of a record company. Wilde stars as his wife, a former model and actress who’s now a mother of two.
HBO presented a Vinyl panel at the Television Critics Association winter 2016 press event and I had the chance to briefly sit down with Wilde to discuss the world in which Vinyl is set and her own music influences.
Olivia Wilde Interview:
What is your relationship to music? As an actor are there ways music affects your performance?
Olivia Wilde: “Yes. I mean, I’ve used music in my work always, whether it’s to reach a certain emotional state or to inspire me to remember sort of different sense memories. I’m very, very connected to music in my own life as well. It’s gotten me through some of my hardest moments. It’s been the soundtrack of some of my best moments. I’m someone who’s deeply connected to music.”
Who is the most recent artist who’s captivated you?
Olivia Wilde: “You know, it’s interesting. It varies from an artist who’s mainstream that I think is really exciting, like The Weeknd – The Weeknd is exciting as an artist, I really like his work – to someone much, much more on the indie world, Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros. I really still listen to a lot of older music. I still listen to the Blues; I still listen to ‘70s rock and R&B. I mean, I listen to a lot of hip-hop. You can catch me listening to Kendrick Lamar on any given day. But I’m sort of eclectic in that way.”
How much music do you actually get to hear on the set?
Olivia Wilde: “A lot. We play music just to kind of get into the right vibe off and on set. Each script is written with the music already established so we can have a chance to kind of, as a group, understand what the rhythm of the script will be, what the rhythm of the scene will be so we can get on the same page with that.”
How do you get into a woman of the ‘70s? You also starred in Rush which was set in that time period. Did that help you get into that era for Vinyl?
Olivia Wilde: “Yeah, it did. I did a huge amount of research for Rush of the London fashion and music world, and the racing world of that time. [It was] a different environment than Vinyl, but certainly that research helped with this research. Really, I’ve been obsessed with the ‘70s for so long that I was ready for both roles.”
The Vinyl Plot: This new drama series is set in 1970s New York City. A ride through the sex- and drug-addled music business at the dawn of punk, disco, and hip-hop, the show is seen through the eyes of a record label president, Richie Finestra, played by Bobby Cannavale, who is trying to save his company and his soul without destroying everyone in his path.
Vinyl is executive produced by Scorsese, Mick Jagger, Terence Winter, Rick Yorn, Victoria Pearman, Emma Tillinger Koskoff, John Melfi, Allen Coulter and George Mastras.
Harry Shum Jr. as Magnus Bane in ‘Shadowhunters’ (Photo by Bob D’Amico / ABC)
Glee‘s Harry Shum Jr. returns to series TV with a starring role in Freeform’s Shadowhunters, based on Cassandra Clare’sThe Mortal Instruments bestselling book series. The Mortal Instruments books and Shadowhunters series center around Clary Fray (played by Katherine McNamara), an 18-year-old who learns there are demons on earth and that human-angel hybrids known as Shadowhunters are charged with hunting them down. Harry Shum Jr plays Magnus Bane, a powerful warlock who’s well-versed in this supernatural world and very cunning.
Freeform will premiere Shadowhunters on January 12, 2016 at 9pm ET/PT and while promoting the series at the Television Critics Association event in Los Angeles, I had the opportunity to speak with Shum Jr. about his new series and how he approached playing Magnus Bane.
Harry Shum Jr. Interview
Does Magnus have to explain a lot of the mythology in the show?
Harry Shum Jr: “Magnus, obviously he’s the wise one. He’s seen it all so I wouldn’t really call it exposition in the sense that he does have to explain these things to people who haven’t been alive to see what’s happened, what caused Valentine to be the person that he is. And also what happened to Clary’s mom – he’s known Clary’s mom for a while. So we see a little bit of that in the pilot and I think we’re going to see more of that unfold in the future.”
Were you ready to do another series as soon as Glee ended?
Harry Shum Jr: “I had some time off. I wind down after the fourth season and [after that] I was making a couple of appearances on Glee. I had some time to do some films and this was something that I really wanted to be a part of, to go back to television.”
Was the idea that this was only a 13-episode season appealing?
Harry Shum Jr: “I mean, yeah. You hope that there’s enough to tell the story. But I think with the way that TV is going, you can tell a lot in 10 or 13 episodes. For me it is because it frees you up to still explore and to give your all to the show you’re working on.”
What was one thing that you read in the books that really helped you play Magnus?
Harry Shum Jr: “For me, it was the relationships. The Ragnor relationships, how he was with Ragnor. How he was when he was a detective. You saw the compassionate side of him and to me that was what was really interesting because we always see him as a hedonistic, party, rock star guy that wears makeup and has his hard-shell exterior. But seeing the compassionate side of him, that was really fun when I was reading the Bane Chronicles.”
What questions did you have about Magnus for Cassandra Clare?
Harry Shum Jr: When I first met her my question was, ‘How old is he really?’ And even she wouldn’t give me the right answer because I think at the end of the day, even Magnus Bane doesn’t know how old he really is.”
How old do you think he is?
Harry Shum Jr: “I think it’s in a range of four to five hundred years old. It could be anything in between that. He likes to lie about it; he doesn’t like to give a straight answer. And, I’m doing the same.”
What was a scene from the book that you were most excited to film?
Harry Shum Jr: “There’s a quote in there when he talks about the Dead Sea and you can see the sassiness coming from him, the sarcasm. It was also my audition piece as well so it was really fun to shoot it and finally put it on film.”
What does Magnus think of letting Simon and Clary into this world?
Harry Shum Jr: “Well I think with Clary he has a soft spot for her. He has a really soft spot for Clary and he wants to help her even though he’s not wanting to give in fully to the idea of helping a Shadowhunter. But with her he has a special connection because he did something to her that caused this to happen, to cause this whole thing of her losing her mother and trying to find her and possibly something to do with the Mortal Cup. I think he wants to hold back, but at the end of the day he feels he has to fix his wrongs.”
Is there any scene from the next books that you hope to get to film in later seasons?
Harry Shum Jr: “There’s so many. I think what the writers have been doing a job of is bringing in elements of the series, of the seven book series, and bringing a lot of things in from the Bane Chronicles. We have a lot of the relationships that came in from Bane Chronicles. Ragnor makes an appearance in the future which I think fans will really love because he’s a really fun character that really explains why Magnus is the way he is.”
Does your dance background help you with the fight scenes?
Harry Shum Jr: “Absolutely. He’s dancing with his hands, he’s dancing with his magic, he’s dancing with his tongue, and for me it was infusing fluidity to every move that he makes. I think we capture that on screen.”
Was there any song you never got to sing on Glee that you really wanted to?
Harry Shum Jr: “I begged Ryan Murphy to do a Justin Timberlake song because the combination of dance, singing, and just swag that Justin had I really wanted to do. But, hey, I don’t know, maybe I’ll be able to do it some time, some way.”
Did anyone do a Justin Timberlake song?
Harry Shum Jr: “No one did.”
Was it just too expensive?
Harry Shum Jr: “It came at a time where Justin was about to come out with music and he didn’t want anyone licensing his music, so it was a little hard to get his music at the time. When his album came out, the show was winding down already.”